His thirteenth studio album was praised by critics and fans alike, and the legendary rapper was recently nominated for massive eight Grammy Awards.
JAY-Z sat down with New York Times Executive Editor Dean Baquet for a conversation on therapy, politics, marriage, the state of rap, being a black man in Trump’s America to his Grammy-nominated album 4:44.
So now I gotta ask my one gossipy question. Talk about Kanye West and your relationship with him, which you alluded to a little bit in the album. When’s the last time you talked to him?
I [talked to] Kanye the other day, just to tell him, like, he’s my brother. I love Kanye. I do. It’s a complicated relationship with us.
Why is it complicated?
‘Cause, you know — Kanye came into this business on my label. So I’ve always been like his big brother. And we’re both entertainers. It’s always been like a little underlying competition with your big brother. And we both love and respect each other’s art, too. So it’s like, we both — everyone wants to be the greatest in the world. You know what I’m saying? And then there’s like a lot of other factors that play in it. But it’s gonna, we gonna always be good.